Heart of Relationships: Leaders

Transcript of a Sage Hill Live Fully Podcast conversation with Dr. Chip Dodd. Lightly edited for readability; speaker labels omitted.

This podcast is brought to you by Sage Hill, a social impact organization. Our mission is to help people be who they're made to be so that they can do what they're made to do. Find more resources to live fully, love deeply, and lead well at sagehillresources.com. What God can do with a person who surrender is an astounding thing because I was left with nothing but need and and and something I couldn't get away from. And what I couldn't get away from was how it was made. I couldn't stop hoping. I couldn't stop. It wouldn't go away. So I had to get help. What's wrong with me? And stop. And if you're lying to me about what this is, I'm going to die. Because I can't keep coming back out of this cave and saying, Is there something out here? Is it going to work? So what's amazing was CPE started, which was for professionals, for leaders who were super successful people, who had become doctors and pastors and all these incredible accountants and business people because that one leader affects the lives of hundreds and hundreds of people. So I thought, well, we can get one leader to return to how they're made, and that person's gonna go say, let me tell you how we're made, folks, and then they can spread it. They could tell others about it. So we've created a place where we could help people change and become. Go back to how you're made and see what God does with you. God will make you into. You can't change yourself and you can't become. You can be changed and turned into. So what happened was that these incredible people began to return to how they were made, but they didn't have to give up what they were already good at doing. They didn't give up their intellect. They didn't give up their willpower. They didn't give up their morality, but their intellect, willpower, morality began to take second place to the primary creation of the heart that's attached to God. In other words, it's the heart of a person that matters more than the intellect, and now the intellect can start be applied to who a person is rather than used to hide a person being insecure or fearful or lonely or whatever. You see? It's amazing.